And just for us Melburnions, There is a company called Ideal Drums in Cheltnam, They are actually in Bayside?? but when i rang the phone directory she gave me cheltnam. But yeah they melt them down so i dont think you would be paying more then $20 for them, i did them a favour and got one for free so i dont think they would be asking too much for them if they can afford to give me one for free..

Cheers
Scott