what are these?

[wickedglass]

they come from the Rio Nanay in Peru
anyone got any idea what they are? agassizii somethings maybe? they're certainly a lot more deep bodied than any agassizii I've seen.

[Waldo]

My first thought would be Apistogramma Oregon. and that aint it unless it's a man made morph.

[steph]

Without my books my first gut feel was A.panduro - the real one, especially with the big wedge of black in the caudal fin.

Definately NOT A aggasizzi.

Where did you find these wicked ??

Steph

[apistodave]

YOu guys got Apistogramma panduro, I iknow for sure cause I helped Uwe Romer descibe it. Waldo Waldo Waldo long as you been hanging around me nothing has rubbed off???????????????

[Th0mas]

Am aware there's some oregon landed in Melbourne lately. How much? Where??

The oregon has higher fin and more orange in the fin as well as the mouth area. The spot in tail doesn't extend as far into the caudal fin for the oregon.

The panduro wedge black patch at the tail (for male) comes and go depending on mood.

Reillin should be able to confirm.

Thomas.

[Waldo]

yeah. Thats why when I get the new Atlas I'll be a lot more help!

[apistodave]

we're working on it, we're working on it 2nd edition being printed now!!!!!!!!!!

[steph]

Hey Dave

Is that a reprint of Cichlid Atlas 1 or the new Cichlid Atlas 2 ?? Cant get my hands on #1 for love or money atm

Cheers

Steph

[apistodave]

that is the new edition 2---I am going to try and get some copies of it and of the first one also--have to contact my pal before July

[Th0mas]

Finally we're getting some attention from the REAL expert in the field - yipee.