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  1. #1
    Larvae
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    Veijita Fab FOrm II = cross b/w veijita and macmasteri?

    Hi All,

    I'm having some problem identifying one of my veijita's. It was the last in the tank on of the times I was at SLS and had to grab it as it looked so unusual. Michela from SLS told me she was definitely a female. (As a side topic, can anyone tell me how to sex veijita's?) Going through other forums old posts to try and identify her, (I'll post a pic here as soon as I have one to get some help from y'all) I've been reading a lot of posts from apistogramma.com that there are likely no real Veijita Form II's left in the hobby, and has been the case for many many years, as just about all of them are hybrid crosses of veijita's and macmasteri's being sold off as Fab Form II's.

    Anyone have an opinion on this?

    Peter.

  2. #2
    Wrigglers
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    If Mike Wise on apistogramma.com said it, I would take it as truth. That man knows more about apisto's than almost anyone else alive.

    Steph
    Current fish: A. baenschi, A. agassizi tefe, A. panduro, M ramirezi
    Past Fish: A. agassizi, A. gibbiceps, A. iniridae, A. trifasciata, A. agassizi alenquer,

  3. #3
    Medium Discus
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    Yeh...I might agree. My A. veijtas are apparently fab form 2 but Im not convinced. Ill post a pic when I can.
    Mike

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    According to posts from apistogramma.com, Farb Form III should be a true species. B&C has indicated they're bringing them in.

    Thomas.

  5. #5
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    bit blurry , though you can see female's have typical yellow of apisto's girls
    males have a lot more colour on the neck and shoulder
    both have colour in the tail


    as to viejieta and macmasteri
    like mentioned before mike know's his stuff
    if any of you has the Datz book then even viejita I and macmasteria , plates 122 and 123 look so similar to my eye

    they do come from the same area though some genetic studies have suggeted they are distinct species
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  6. #6
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    Wow...that male has a lot more colour than mine.

    Mike

  7. #7
    Larvae
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    I've got to try and get a photo of my weird female. I'm keen to see what you all think. Will try over the weekend.

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