White spot on new fish- is it bad?

I would say that I am still pretty new to discus. I have had a few that died, but two came though strong. I have had these for about a little over 4 months, and recently bought two from a local person. One is a solid purple and seems to have a little white spot that is kind of coming out of his body just behind and above one eye. I am not sure what this is, and don't want it to get to my other fish if it is something bad. I didn't notice this when I bought the fish. I have had the new ones for aobut 1 week. The other fish looked like it was on deaths door step, but seems to have come around. The one in question was very active from the get go, and eats very well. I tried to attach a picture, but don't know if it worked.

Any help would be apreciated.

I have been keeping the tank at 6.0 ph, and about 82 degrees.
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any chance of a photo, sounds like a sick blue diamond to me

Never seen a 'Purple' before, like ILLUSN, I'd say it is sick. What are your water parameters, test for Ammonia, NitrIte, NitrAte and Ph. Also what temperature is your tank at, and what is your water change regime.

These answers will help diagnose your problems. Photos as advised will also help.

H :)

Can't tell it really looks purple here, color seems to change a lot. Will test the water tomorow.
http://www.discusforums.com/forum/al...hp?pic_id=1853

Hmmm. Dark eyes on discus are never good. Usually indicates something is wrong. Is your discus eating? What's its behaviour?

It looks pretty ill to me, pinched and stunted. More better quality pics would be better,(if possible) and please post up all test results asap

The fish is kind of looking like it is taking a turn for the wors. I can't seem to get a real good picture of the fish, but this is one from today. It now seems more like a crator than something growing on the side of the fish. The fish is now hiding in the back more, and not eating as much, but still coming to the front to eat.

This is in a 55 gal tank with a marineland C-360 canister filter.

Temp-82 deg.
Nitrate-0
Nitrite-0
Hardness-150 ppm
Alkalinity-40ppm Low
pH-6.0
Ammonia-<.25mg/l

Water changes were about 5 gal tap water/week. Since I got these two it has been about 3 gal RO every other day.

I'm sorry to say that this fish look like it is on it's last legs. The fins look very ragged, the eye is definately large, which means it is badly stunted. The pinched look to the forehead also means it is badly malnurished, and when they are like this they hardly ever pull back. The fact that it is also not eating is not a good sign.
This is not your fault, but the fault of the seller/breeder selling poor quality fish. I hope you never spent much money on it.

To at least give him a better quality of life, you need to get rid of that reading of ammonia, you should never show ammonia in a mature tank, not nitrIte. Big water changes are needed immediatley.
As for treatment, you could try a course of Metro, this might help clean him out internally, but I don't hold out much hope. Raise the temperature to 86 degrees you have it too cold for them right now.

On another point, discus cannot be mixed with existing stock right away. Mixing fish from different sources, even the same, can introduce pathogens/disease to your existing fish and wipe them all out. I would suggest you get a small hospital tank in the future for quarentine new fish.

Sorry it's not good news.

H

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Originally Posted by Hollowman

To at least give him a better quality of life, you need to get rid of that reading of ammonia, you should never show ammonia in a mature tank, nor nitrIte. Big water changes are needed immediatley.

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Typo, should read as in red

I need a better ammonia tester I think. The bottle of test strips are about 3 years old. Not sure if they can get to a point when they are too old, but the color never changed on the strip, but was not the bright yellow, indicating 0. I have turned the temp up and am starting a water change.

The attached picture is of the other fish that came with the one that is not doing so hot. I thought I was going to lose this one, but now it is eating really good, and is starting to pick on the other fish. He seemed to have a white look to his scales, and one eye is still a little cloudy.

I paid $50 for the two of them. I didn't think that was too bad, but if they die...