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Originally Posted by nicholas76

hmm that really dosent sound right

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actually it does and is. when dealing privately with someone its "buyer beware" unless its blatant obvious fraud and you have concrete proof (paid for something and the thing never existed like the ebay scammers do). and in the end in this situation it really is his word against yours. if this ever went to court there is no proof these fish weren't in 100% condition when sent.


ripoff's on the net are extremely common, ive been ripped off more times than id like to mention.

good rule, if your ever dealing with someone you dont personally know, never spend more money than you are willing to throw away.

Fair call Dan. If thats the law then so be it.

we could write a list of rules you shoudl take when buying fish in this manner. food for thought how about we start this in a new thread ???

Which is why I prefer to pay via paypal and willing pay extra to the seller to cover their surcharge. Of course I understand that it works both ways and there are some scammer buyers out there that abuse paypal.

It's a catch 22 situation...

after what has happened to JT, I am going to be extra careful about buying things via EFT

I've just read all the posts.... what a SAD situation. The seller should feel ashamed of himself and you can bet he's probably here reading this. Karma will come back around to bite you in the @$$. Don't think so? I've seen it come back ten-fold on people and you will get yours.

JT, I hope this won't discourage you in the future. There are plenty of reputable people out there... Just make sure you do your research beforehand in the future. As much of the situation is a bummer.... take what you can from it.... it was an expensive lesson. At least you can become a pro from this experience and maybe you can tell other people what to look for in the future.

I've purchased other fish through the mail and one in particular I liked and stuck with him. Now, I'm a bit worried as my husband and I might be moving soon and I'm gonna have to have my discus shipped up to me. That thought alone frightens me!

If he does have links with that aquarium (part owner or something like that) and he is selling off fish privately i would put a call into the tax department......



Ado

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Originally Posted by Sazabi

Which is why I prefer to pay via paypal

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why would you think paypay is any better/safer than eft's? everything i know about paypal its not only not safe, but they charge you a heap for the effort.

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Originally Posted by Sazabi

Which is why I prefer to pay via paypal

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why would you think paypay is any better/safer than eft's? everything i know about paypal its not only not safe, but they charge you a heap for the effort.

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EFT = money sent, cant do anything if seller doesnt send the fish or sends dead ones

paypal = money sent, if there is an issue, then I go through my credit card using chargeback, not going to go through paypal to dispute.

I've used paypal many times. The first time I had an issue, paypal sucked badly as the seller wont respond and so the dispute ended due to the time limit being over. I went through my credit card and got everything back.

And I realised that never ever go through paypal dispute, just go through your credit card.

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hi JT,

this is a sad situation, and frustrates me a great deal, and im sure any decent person wouldve refunded you back at least 1/3 of your money, but at least you've learnt for the future, there are alot of very good people on this forum, as u can clearly see, so dont be discouraged to buy fish in the future...

The seller is 100% to blame, The buyer doesn't need to worry about bagging,packing and shipping as that is what he is paying the seller for ($120).

If I was you I would shell out another $70 to go see him and give him a royal beating! :lol:

why do I miss all the fun :banghead
I'd say the fish were probably sick otherwise the're pretty hard to kill with or without oxygen.