LEVIMENISOLE at 1ml/7L is harmless to bristlenoses, and kulli's, i have both in my tank.
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LEVIMENISOLE at 1ml/7L is harmless to bristlenoses, and kulli's, i have both in my tank.
Is there a ratio if I want to soak food with Big L?
How long should I soak them?
Can I use Albendazole or Mebendazole for deworming discus both are for Human consumption.
ALBENDAZOLE
http://www.squarepharma.com.bd/SPL_PI_PDF/Almex.pdf
(Albendazole) is a benzimidazole anthelmintic active against most
nematodes and some cestodes. It is used in the treatment of intestinal
nematodes infections and in higher doses in the treatment of hydatid
disease.
It is used in the treatment of single or mixed intestinal infection caused by
Enterobius vermicularis (Pinworm, Threadworm), Trichuris trichuria
(Whipworm), Ascaris lumbricoides (Roundworm), Ancylostoma duodenale & Necator americanus (Hookworm), Taenia solium & Taenia saginata
(Tapeworm), Strongyloides stercoralis.
MEBENDAZOLE
http://www.squarepharma.com.bd/SPL_PI_PDF/Ermox.pdf
(Mebendazole) is a synthetic derivative of benzimidazole with a
potent anthelmintic activity against the most common nematodes and some cestodes. It is highly effective against ascariasis, enterobiasis, trichuriasis and hookworm infections.
It is used in treatment of pinworm (Enterobius vermicularis),
round worm (Ascaris lumbricoides), hookworm (Ancylostoma duodenale and Necator americanus), whip worm (Trichuris trichiura), tape worm (Taenia
solium and taenia saginata) and threadworm (Strongyloides stercoralis) in
single or mixed infections.
Thanks.
Welcome to the forum skmdmasud :P
Two of our members are vets, so I might leave it up to them to answer.
The reason we recommend Levamisole, especially the Big L brand of pig and poultry wormer, is that it is water soluble and contains no glucose.
Glucose will cause a bacterial bloom in your tank, and possibly kill your fish.
Thanks Merrilyn
medicines like this are almost impossible to find here, may be because they sell it in different names or different ones, poultry is a big business here so there must be dewormers. Albendazole and Mebendazole are easy to find and cheap. Can i keep bacteria bloom with proper filteration.
Just got off the phone with my LFS & they use a drug called Flageil (Unsure of the spelling) which is actually a drug for humans.
Will this do the trick in terms of de-worming discus?
Have not actually dewormed my discus before & after some feed back from a fellow forum member & reading this thread its something that I 100% want to start doing (Awesome & informative thread I must say)
Don't really have any other contacts in regards to getting the specific treatments that have been recomended in this tread. Can anyone point me in the right direction - I'm in Sydney.
From what I have read flagyl is an atibiotic used for treating hex. Big L and prazi are for worming. Just have another read through this thread and it tells you all about it.
No worries, so my LFS is feeding me some BS by the sounds of it. I still actually have some flagyl at home, do you think it would be worth running anyway?... I don't like filling my tank full of chemicals if it is not needed, so I'm leaning towards no... But I'll take my advice from the experts :DQuote:
Originally Posted by lpiasente
I know the products I'm after, but I had no luck in tracking them down. I have also e-mail Xtreme Aquariums, but have had no response as yet, but I only e-mailed them at COB yesterday.
Assuming Xtreme can't help me out, does anyone know of where I can buy the specific products in Sydney?
Well I'm not sure about the flagyl, it could be used for worming but I haven't read that anywhere yet. You can get the prazi at lps the big L comes from a rural supplies, horse shop.
The FS i go to said it's what they use to de-worm their fish, but from what I've read in this thread, it doesn't look like it'll do the trick or it is not a very widely used product for fish (It is after all for humans).Quote:
Originally Posted by lpiasente
Will continue to track down a LFS that carries praziquantal :D
You'll have to excuse my ignorance :P Does anyone have contact details for a rural supplies shop in Sydney? Perhaps a website that I can purchase off?
Sorry, I am in Victoria so I have no idea.
No worries mate :)Quote:
Originally Posted by lpiasente
I've been told that you can order Big L from a website... For the life of me I have not been able to find it listed anywhere! Could someone point me in the right direction?
Me thinks I found a place :D :
http://www.vetnpetdirect.com.au/prod...390&bestseller
Anyone ordered from this place before?
Here you go,
http://www.2easy.com.au/shop/article...e=2090&cat=672
:D
Cheers mate :!:Quote:
Originally Posted by Xtreme
:D
Quote:
Originally Posted by swingn
Thas where i got mine....
Ado
I actually buy this one from the same place as it's more concentrated for the same price - dosage is 1ml per 14litres instead of 1ml per 7litres
http://www.vetnpetdirect.com.au/prod...cat=397&page=1
Got my Big L in the mail this morning & just wanted to clarify a few things regarding treatment (Did some searching through this thread, found some answers, but I just want to make sure I do everything correctly)...
My tank is approx 150L. At 1ml per 7 L, I'll will be adding 21ml of Big L to the tank. Obviously, no carbon will be left in the filter & I'm planning on doing a good size water change the day before I begin treatment.
The treatment goes for approx 7 days. Does this mean I'm dosing the tank everyday with the same dosage (As you would with Melafix for example)?
I noticed someone mentioned doing a water change after 3 days? Is this nessesary or will I be safe doing a good water change after the treatment period?
Sorry if the calibur of my questions is somewhat basic, but I just want to ensure I'm doing the right thing :D
Cheers
Hi swingn.
They're all good questions. Levamisole is a once only treatment, so do your waterchange, then add the correct dose on day one, and that's it. Don't add any further product.
On day 3 do a big waterchange being careful to thoroughly vacuum the gravel to remove any expelled worms and eggs.
On day 7 repeat the dose (21 ml in your size tank) and again, gravel vac on day 3 and that's it. Treatment finished.
I just bought my Sykes Big L, over the counter, about $21 for 500ml.
PetBarn at Wollongong.
Here's a link so you can find your local store. (Hope that's OK?).
http://www.petbarn.com.au/index.php
You might like to ring first to check if it is in stock, or you can ask them to order it in for you. (Search on Levimenisole)
Too Easy! :lol: :lol:
1ml per 7litres, after a water change you say?
I'll give it a go.
thanks
Old Dave
I did a dose yesterday however forgot to turn my UV off. ANy idea if UV will render BigL useless ? I'll do it again in 7 days as sugegsted however was wondering if UV would effect it.
rob
My guess is that the UV is there to kill live things like parasites and bacteria?? etc.
I don't think UV (especially if it isn't a high power one) will hurt at all, otherwise we would be treating tanks in the dark.
JMO,
Old Dave
What a helpful topic...flagyl is used to kill a variety of worms in humans including Giardia not sure if that's spelt correctly
It can make you feel very sick when taking it,i talk from experience..the dosage would have to be a lot lower than for humans that's for sure :shock:
Hi all
I'd like to Big L & Prazi worming treatment on my apisto in QT. They share QT with some cardinal tetras & harley rasboras.
Are they any issues with the cardinals & rasboras in regard to the worming treatment?
thanks in advance.
cardinals survived big L and prazi in my tanks no problem, never kept rasboras though so icant say,
as for the UV question, UV will ionise the levimenisole and make it useless turn off UV when ever administering any treatment.
as for flagyl, that's the brand name for metronidazole, the minimum effective dose in aquaria is 25mg/L or mixed into food at 1g/100g w/w higher doses of metro are being used as flagellets become more and more resistant i believe overseas they are using up to 100mg/L, personally i think this dose can do longterm damage the internal organs of the fish.
Will these worming medicines kill off my snails and Cherry Shrimps? I also have various other catfish, SAEs and Bettas in the tank.
yes they will harm both snails and shrimp
OK, I just set up a quarantine tank for snails and shrimp. Should I also separate the Royal Wiptail, bristlenose, SAE, Oto?
is it worth adding a small dosage of wormer to a beefheart mix to provide some long term deterrent?
No, only treat when you see symptoms, as Illusn said, worms are building up immunity, this will only add to the problem.Quote:
Originally Posted by Will1983
cheers Hollowman
where in UK you from?
are we the only 2 UK members on here?
Will
I am in Dorset, near Dorchester :wink:Quote:
Originally Posted by Will1983
how many people notice thier fish go a bit skittish when treated with levamisol?
Just though i'd add a bit of a funny story.
i bought 2 beautiful wild green discus a couple of years ago, they were already packed in bags so when i got them home i realised that they were really skinny and had worms, i proceeded to treat them with prazi, then fed them copious amounts of black worms to get them healthy again :) there are good and bad versions of everything in life.
tape worms are treated with prazi
flagelettes are treated with metro
round worms are treated with lavamocele
In other words...if your fish has tape worms, Lavamocele will not cure your fish.
you need to have a diagnosis of the worm type, to get the correct medication that will cure you fish. Can you give us more symptoms?
New to this excellent forum. I have a question in the treatment of gill flukes.
I have a 1200 liter tank with plants, substrate, discus & many tetras. The tank has a large sump. I currently use Kusuri (monthly), water changes at 50% per week, and gravel syphoning. Fish eat very well, water is good, poo is black, however the discus flash more than I would like.
My query regards the correct meds:
Trichlorfon label notes ‘temp must be below 27 degrees’ - improbable in Qld this time of year - rules this out!
Praziquantel label notes ‘cannot be used with tetras’ - rules this out!
How do I get around this? Will reduced doses work, when & how often, and will this work better than Kusuri? Or am I being over the top?
I have a few thousand dollars’ worth of fish and do not want to risk a catastrophe.
Any advice would be greatly appreciated.