scared discus

hopefully the ammonia is the culprit, if you leave it too long you'll get internal parasites as well.

thanks, ill do a 50% change now and hold off food for a while. will keep you posted on levels

change 100%. fill a bucket with water add prime, airstone, heater. change all your water and toss them back in.

with a 50% change your ammonia is still .25 and thats still too much. Considering they have been there for a week you'll be better off getting rid of all the ammonia at once.

Do products like Ammo-lock or stresszyme work for these kind of problems with Ammonia? Cuz you could use those to to help you out

Ok, I didn't have a suitable bucket to put the fish in so i couldn't go with the 100% change today but i changed about 85 percent, will do another one tomorrow also hopefully this gets rid of most of it, after that one i just did the fish are already looking happier

Jessie,
Sometimes i do huge water changes with the fish still in the tank, they end up lying on their sides in about an inch and a half of water, so this can be done safely. Just got to make sure you refill with the water the same temp as has been taken out. I have photo somewhere, I'll see if I can find it.

Hollowman

Cheers, so tomorrow would you recommend doing a 100 percent change as well? well as close as i can get to it ?

Reason I didn't recommend dropping water too low is because you already have very jumpy fish. If you drop the water lower they will go psyco.
One sudden movement or noise is all you need to have fish flying all over the place and possibly ending up with cuts and scrapes, which is fine if your tank is running good, but not if you have ammonia.
Anyways do what you feel is convenient, its the end result thats important, zero ammonia.

Thanks for all the help, the fish are looking as good as new at the moment only a couple of hours after a big change, they aren't scared at all now and are even coming up to the glass and following me, i'll keep a close eye on the ammonia levels and try to keep it eliminated completely

Thanks again for all the help from everyone

Good news Jesse, just keep an eye on the ammonia. It's amazing how they will perk up with good conditions. Loads of clean water is often the key to good discus health.

Hollowman