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samir
Mon Jul 03, 2006, 12:52 PM
here's a few of parent and fry, i think there are probably still about 150+. about 3 days free swimming.

goldenpigeon
Mon Jul 03, 2006, 12:54 PM
wow you have got it going on samir! great job bud!

OscarManAlpha
Mon Jul 03, 2006, 12:59 PM
Looking good, real good.

Cheers,

Mark

samir
Mon Jul 03, 2006, 01:13 PM
another

nicholas76
Mon Jul 03, 2006, 01:30 PM
aaah love the mozzie look

top job !

DR.V
Mon Jul 03, 2006, 01:39 PM
Awsome !! Let me know when you want to sell the babies later on Samir :p:p

Good luck.

marg
Mon Jul 03, 2006, 02:23 PM
Wow Samir they look great. Congratulations!!

Marg.

the_oracle
Mon Jul 03, 2006, 05:30 PM
COOL......................


Sanie.

Discus 41
Tue Jul 04, 2006, 07:08 AM
way ta go samir fantastic pics too

samir
Tue Jul 04, 2006, 07:12 AM
thanks guys !! :D if they survive i will post pics regularly, still figuring out the manual settings for the camera so the pics should get better with time. i have some video as well will post a link as soon as i scale it down and add some cheesy music hehe.

samir
Tue Jul 04, 2006, 01:26 PM
day 4

the_oracle
Tue Jul 04, 2006, 02:55 PM
COOL spawn & definitely COOL pictures, samir...........
Nice macro shots.................


Sanie.

samir
Tue Jul 04, 2006, 04:05 PM
macro of fry at 4 days. they look cute :)

rytis
Tue Jul 04, 2006, 06:20 PM
wow, how do u get a shot like that.. anyway i think my yellow/blue turq pair are definetely ready to go!!

oscar
Tue Jul 04, 2006, 08:10 PM
Samir,

You have absolutely nailed the photography mate. Those fry shots...i can only imagine how many photos i'd have had to take to get one to turn out so clear.

Good Job.

rytis
Tue Jul 04, 2006, 10:11 PM
its pics like these that make me realize what a unique fish we have!!

my fav is this one: samir, i think this fish was a one parent blue one parent yellow mix?
http://www.discusforums.com/forum/files/day4.jpg

samir
Wed Jul 05, 2006, 03:09 AM
samir, i think this fish was a one parent blue one parent yellow mix?


:shock: no Rytis i dont think so :lol: :lol: :lol: its just an ordinary blue diamond and i'm sure its been one for a few generations. there are 3 kinds of diff temp lighting in the room hence the yellow

Robdog
Wed Jul 05, 2006, 05:24 AM
How was the fry close up photo taken? Digital SLR?

samir
Wed Jul 05, 2006, 05:29 AM
canon S2IS on "super" macro (0-10cm) focus manual
http://canon.com.au/products/visual/cameras/digital_compact_cameras/powershots2is.html

Rytis ???? suspended again ??? :shock:

oscar
Wed Jul 05, 2006, 05:38 AM
Rytis ???? suspended again ??? :shock:

I thought the same thing. It's a laugh. :argue

samir
Thu Jul 06, 2006, 04:45 PM
still going strong, fingers crossed .

marg
Fri Jul 07, 2006, 12:23 AM
They look great Samir, I'm really thrilled for you :D .

Marg.

samir
Fri Jul 07, 2006, 02:38 PM
thanx Marg :D . one week up.

Dee
Fri Jul 07, 2006, 02:42 PM
Hi Samir,

Great pics mate ! those fry look like they are doing great ... please keep posting update pics. Best of luck with the fry !

Cheers,

Dee :)

samir
Fri Jul 07, 2006, 03:00 PM
thanks D, its wierd i just got them a couple of months ago, they paired up and were taking over the tank so i moved them and they spawned the next day, then they got fin rot so i put them in a seperate tank with tetracycline and they spawned the next day, this was the third spawn on the 8th day of the tetracyline dose, so i changed the water and let them be and this is what they came up with. i paid 80 each for the first 2 bd's and 40 each for these two as they were in a very bad state(jet black) and i felt that if i dont buy them i'd be responsible for their deaths,so i did and this is how they repay me, by giving me an extra two month heavy water change routine.

Dee
Fri Jul 07, 2006, 03:28 PM
Heya Samir,

That's a great story mate ... well done :thumb great job on getting these guys back up to scratch. I was going to say they look like (from the pics) a young pair, which is another added bonus :wink: Mind if I ask how old they are ? they look around 10-12 months IMO ... judging by the pectral fins.

Best of luck with them :D

Cheers,

Dee

samir
Fri Jul 07, 2006, 03:41 PM
i have absolutely no idea.they do have pretty big eyes for their size. i was told about 10 months when i got them but it seems odd for a 12 month old pair to get everything right on just the third attempt and have so many wrigglers. maybe they just have good parenting genes. i would have been happy with 30 fry. so many is going to be a big problem later as i dont have any space.

goldenpigeon
Sat Jul 08, 2006, 12:09 AM
dude they look awesome! those are some great fish and would make great fosters too if you had another pair that wasnt getting it right :D keep up the excellent work :D your going to be very popular down your way when they are ready to sell ;)

Dee
Sat Jul 08, 2006, 05:08 AM
Hiya Samir,

Yeah it can be surprising at times how proficient young pairs can be, I guess it's up to the individual pairs. I have had pairs that take for ever and ever to get a spawn and still dont get it right :roll: Then there was my little Albino pair that spawned at 6 months old and produced wrigglers :shock: , which didnt attatch :x But yeah just goes to show ya that all pairs are different in their own way.

Keep up the good work mate, that's a great number of fry you got there :)

Cheers,

Dee :)

aquaholic
Sat Jul 08, 2006, 06:42 AM
Top stuff Samir
If my pair that have just spawned get that many free swimmers i'll be stoked:)

cheers andrew

samir
Sat Jul 08, 2006, 06:56 AM
they have started to browse around a bit. i'm giving them some powdered fish food thats fouling up the water (theres no way i'm hatching BS) so more water changes, maybe the next time around i'll try microworms.

goldenpigeon
Sat Jul 08, 2006, 07:25 AM
why not hatch bs? its dead easy! cheap too IMO

samir
Sat Jul 08, 2006, 07:49 AM
dunno, i just hate doing it. i did it once for my betta fry but microworms worked better, maybe next time.

Nathan
Sun Jul 09, 2006, 07:54 AM
what about frozen BBS?

samir
Sun Jul 09, 2006, 08:06 AM
anybody know where i can find it here ?frozen bbs in Sydney. or daphnia ??? will the fry eat daphnia ???

G-1000
Sun Jul 09, 2006, 09:45 AM
Samir - I have heard of people using a fry food for discus which you can get from Xtreme. I have no idea what it is called, but it supposedly gives you 20% plus better growth rates on discus fry.

Might be worth a look .

G

mcloughlin2
Sun Jul 09, 2006, 10:58 AM
I buy my BBS from neptune aquarium.... :D

Very good for your baby fish...ive used it on africans, guppies, clownfish and it is very good for them inthe first vital weeks of development.... 8-)

Merrilyn
Sun Jul 09, 2006, 11:57 AM
Wonderful photos Samir. Those babies are doing well. Good luck with them.

Robdog
Mon Jul 10, 2006, 01:26 AM
Frozen BBS from Pet Centre Macquarie and heaps of other places too I reckon. I've got some made by Posaqua. Really good quality stuff

ozarowana
Mon Jul 10, 2006, 01:58 AM
Nice work samir, they look great.

samir
Mon Jul 10, 2006, 04:36 AM
thanks rob , i drove down to north ryde and picked it up. i dont know what i'd do without you guys. actually i do know, i'd be driving around to all the LFS's asking confused 18 year olds who would look at me like i'm asking for some strange thing the've never heard about.

RichVic
Thu Jul 13, 2006, 02:09 AM
Samir -
been a bit busy to browse the forum for a while and then today had a quick look at your thread and had to say -Top Job both with Pics and babies!! Congratulations, keep up the good work and keep us posted
Cheers
Vicki

TeeFM
Thu Jul 13, 2006, 02:17 AM
Well done Samir...and keep up with the good job!!

samir
Thu Jul 13, 2006, 05:55 AM
thanks guys, i have removed the parents as they were getting irritated and am giving them frozen BBS and fry food. added a UV. all thats left is a little problem called space :) . no deaths that i know of so far, one of the pair was getting bugged and snapping at them resulting in major domestic fireworks between the pair, so off they went. i did an approx head count, around 120-140 with about 10 odd looking like culls.

Discus 41
Thu Jul 13, 2006, 06:08 AM
congrads samir good work keep the posts coming on there progress

looking good mate
Ian

goldenpigeon
Thu Jul 13, 2006, 07:46 AM
AWESOME!!!! excellent job you have done with them! whole tank shot? :D

samir
Thu Jul 13, 2006, 08:08 AM
whole tank shot? :D
coming to a computer near you tonight :D

goldenpigeon
Thu Jul 13, 2006, 08:46 AM
haha goody! i better go find a computer.....

G-1000
Wed Jul 19, 2006, 08:36 AM
Its now a week later and there isnt any pic from you Samir!

You tightass !

lol

G

samir
Wed Jul 19, 2006, 09:10 AM
:lol: :lol: :lol: i left my memory cards at work, definitely some tonight. any tips on what to feed them. its now 20 days something, i've made them a broth of discus dinner,bloodworms,and tubifex but they dont eat it with the enthusiasm that they have for frozen BBS.

samir
Wed Jul 19, 2006, 12:26 PM
day 20 19/07

Nathan
Wed Jul 19, 2006, 12:40 PM
what size tank is that samir?

samir
Wed Jul 19, 2006, 12:42 PM
standard 3 foot.

G-1000
Wed Jul 19, 2006, 12:45 PM
They look crap Samir

Lower the pH to 4.2 immediately!

lol

G

samir
Wed Jul 19, 2006, 01:00 PM
:lol: :lol: i dont know what the ph is, i keep leaving the ph meter on and draining the batteries, this is the third time, so i've stopped checking ph. i'm guessing its about 6.5-7.2 . as long as they look fine i dont really care what it is. i guess the fact that the fish spawned in it and so many babies hatched is good enough for me , i hope brilliant doesn't read this, it just wouldn't cut it with him :lol: :lol:

Dee
Wed Jul 19, 2006, 01:26 PM
G'day Samir,

Great pics mate, I love fry pics like that :wink:

They are looking good ... well done ! Please update with more pics in the future, will be cool to see them grow out :wink: Best of luck with them all !


Cheers,

Dee :)

marg
Wed Jul 19, 2006, 02:37 PM
They look like they are coming along great Samir. Well done!!

Marg.

G-1000
Tue Jul 25, 2006, 12:33 PM
time for update Samir

lol

G

samir
Tue Jul 25, 2006, 01:53 PM
well the latest update is "I HATE WATER CHANGES !!!!!! :x :x :x " :lol: :lol: lost my memory card again, will find and post asap. the pair is starting look like another spawn's on the way. this time i'll try rotifers and artemia food. i can see a quadruple rack of 3 foot tanks on the way.

samir
Tue Jul 25, 2006, 03:47 PM
so far so good

aks
Tue Jul 25, 2006, 04:09 PM
marvellous :)

Discus 41
Wed Jul 26, 2006, 06:04 AM
gotta be happy with there progress samir well done
keep the posts coming and good luck with the next spawn

KillieOrCory
Wed Jul 26, 2006, 06:57 AM
Hi Samir,

Great pics and well done :thumb I wish I lived in Sydney, I would relieve you of 10 or so of those little cuties :wink:

As for what to feed them. Although obviously I have never tried it on discus but, maybe you'd like to try a dry food that a lot of killifish keepers use. Check out:
http://www.ta-aquaculture.co.uk/ In the dry food section there is the red granular crumb that is available here through a hobbiest.

I am using this food on all 25 species of killifish I have and they love it. It comes in many different grades that make feeding fry relatively easy. Because of this food I got really slack at hatching BBS!

Just an alternative and above is just my opinion.

Great job again!

samir
Wed Jul 26, 2006, 04:34 PM
Thanks Serkan I'll look into it.
thought I'd stuff another picture of the pair down your throats :D

samir
Thu Jul 27, 2006, 05:27 PM
day 28 27/07

shayesmommy
Thu Jul 27, 2006, 08:25 PM
Those are some really blue fish. Holy. Ive never seen a fish so intensly blue. Wonderful Job.

Merrilyn
Tue Aug 01, 2006, 02:36 PM
Well done samir. Isn't it wonderful the way they change shape as they grow. Now they're beginning to look like real little discus.

Keep up the good work. You're doing a great job. :P

Nathan
Wed Aug 02, 2006, 08:56 AM
looks great samir, the pair are beautiful, really like the body shape on them.

samir
Sun Aug 13, 2006, 03:00 PM
about 6 weeks and three days.

samir
Sun Aug 13, 2006, 03:02 PM
and more.

nicholas76
Sun Aug 13, 2006, 09:30 PM
Stunning Samer ,


nice big fat bellies , I like that.


looks like you got some ocean greens in there too!

Nathan
Mon Aug 14, 2006, 12:30 AM
wow awsome job, the fat little piggies will be at seeling size before you know it!

they do look like OG or is just the coloruing of a BD while its young an the colourings havnt come up yet?

all the same youve done a really great job!

aks
Mon Aug 14, 2006, 05:17 AM
very nice fish there great job dude

mcloughlin2
Mon Aug 14, 2006, 05:38 AM
wow awsome job, the fat little piggies will be at seeling size before you know it!

they do look like OG or is just the coloruing of a BD while its young an the colourings havnt come up yet?

all the same youve done a really great job!

BD are known for having more OG like colours whilst they are young... :wink:

G-1000
Mon Aug 14, 2006, 05:58 AM
Samir,

What is your w/c routine like ?

I need to know because my turkxalbino pair are going at it lol

G

samir
Mon Aug 14, 2006, 06:33 AM
its just a 3 footer . i drain the tank down to about 4 inches. i have a 2 footer at the back with a small powerhead. takes about an hour to fill the fry tank up again. sometimes i do it twice a day coz there's a he11 of a lot of fish for a standard 3 foot. i guess i do about 80% wc at a time at least once a day.

marg
Mon Aug 14, 2006, 07:07 AM
Congrats Samir, they are looking wonderful!!!

marg.

aquartos
Mon Aug 14, 2006, 07:32 AM
Awesome fish you have there! Congratulations on the fry!

nicholas76
Mon Aug 14, 2006, 08:15 AM
wow awsome job, the fat little piggies will be at seeling size before you know it!

they do look like OG or is just the coloruing of a BD while its young an the colourings havnt come up yet?

all the same youve done a really great job!

BD are known for having more OG like colours whilst they are young... :wink:

Yep they sure do..

genetically he will have some too!

Nathan
Mon Aug 14, 2006, 08:56 AM
oh ok, just curious thats all

Mulisha
Mon Aug 14, 2006, 09:54 AM
Wow awersome mate looks like someone has breeding down pat 8-) 8-)

Congrtats mate they look very nice can't wait for pics of them later on :shock: :shock: :shock:

Good Luck mate!

Rick.

*Chris*
Sat Aug 19, 2006, 12:36 AM
well mate those pics are awesome
now if my pairs got there bloody act together :lol: :lol:
well done mate
awesome fish
cheers
EX-AI