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Jeroen
Sun May 07, 2006, 07:13 PM
Hello,

I thought I posted this topic allready a few hours ago, but can't find it myself anymore, so probably I did something wrong, there for I post it again.

A mail discus of one of my couples I noticed last week 3 circles on the skin, I thought the came of male/female things (you know what I mean)

Anyway, todat I had a closer look again and noticed it looks worser...I have no idea what it is....I hope there is any one who has a idea what it is and how to treat it.

Thanks.
Jeroen

marg
Mon May 08, 2006, 12:38 AM
Jeroen,

Photos would help more experienced members with a diagnosis.,

Regards,

Marg.

Merrilyn
Mon May 08, 2006, 01:58 AM
Hi Jeroen, how big are the circles, and are they white or pale in colour. Is there a red ring around the outside of the circles?

As Marg said, if you could post a picture, it would be very helpful.

Jeroen
Mon May 08, 2006, 06:58 AM
Hi ladies,

Thank you for your quick reply.
I don't understand it, I first post this topic and can not find it anymore, second time post it (with picture) there is no picture... :shock:
I guess to much sun, to much liqued (with a dash of BBQ) in the weekend :-)

Anyway, here is the picture
Some additional information:

Ph = 6.6
Kh = 1.0
Gh = 3.0
Us = 165
Temp = 29.5
No2 = 0.1
No3 = 8

I do a water change everyday of aprox. 15 a 20% (this goes automatich when cleaning the bottom of the setup)

Jeroen

G-1000
Mon May 08, 2006, 09:37 AM
Jereon,

I have previously had some discus which had a similar symptom.

The spots went away in about a week - that might just have been lucky for me.

Just wait for LR to see what she reckons...

G

Merrilyn
Tue May 09, 2006, 03:29 AM
Jeroen, it doesn't look too serious. It looks to be on the surface of the slime coating, and not into the skin.

Just keep an eye on it. But I don't really thing it's anything to worry aabout.

You don't happen to have a pleco in that tank do you? It almost looks like a suck mark from a pleco or some kind of catfish.

Your water is perfect. No need to alter anything, and you're already doing daily water changes, so that will keep the bacteria count in the tank low.

Keep us posted.

Jeroen
Wed May 10, 2006, 12:15 AM
Hi LR,

Ok I keep an I on it...
What you think, would it be a good idea to give the discus a saltwater treatment (10 minutes) this mostly kills lot's of things on the skin and helps to develop a stronger slimecoating (as I heard)

Or shall I better wait ?

Jeroen

Inspiringfish
Wed May 10, 2006, 03:20 AM
What you think, would it be a good idea to give the discus a saltwater treatment (10 minutes) this mostly kills lot's of things on the skin and helps to develop a stronger slimecoating (as I heard)



What is a saltwater treatment (10minutes)?

Darth_discus
Wed May 10, 2006, 07:47 AM
i dont know if this could help so i will say it anyway

I dont know what the smaller marks are but could it be that the discus got sucked into the intake, because once i had the intake cover off for like 5 mins because i was cleaning it and i noticed later that night one of my discus had a ring on its scale and i narrowed the possibilities down and decided that it was so stupid to get sucked into the intake.

HTH

G-1000
Wed May 10, 2006, 09:02 AM
Mark,

A saltwater treatment 10 mins refers to taking a bucket full of tank water out - dosing with 1-2 tablespoons of rock salt and having an airstone in there.

You put the fish into this sort of setup when it is sick and it is a general cure.

G

Inspiringfish
Wed May 10, 2006, 11:47 AM
Thank you G. How long?, and do you recommend it?

Jeroen
Wed May 10, 2006, 09:18 PM
Here is a quick translation of someone who seems to know quit a lot about it:

The best result gives seasalt, but others are doing good aswell.
The solution is best made in a large bucket, use water out of the aquarium with 2% salt (20 gram per liter)
Make sure the salt is complete solved in the water, put an airstone in the water and then the discus, treatment will take between 10 and 20 minutes.
Stay with the fish (it can change color, darker)

Keep notice of the breathing, if this comes below 20x per minut then set the fish back to the tank, this can be done straight out of the bucket.

When the fish is back in the tank color and breathing will change back to normal within 30 minutes.

I hope this will help you, I will give it a try tomorrow if the marks are not less.

Hi Darth_discus

This marks can not be from intake, I will post a picture tommorow, then you see what I mean why it can't be from that.

Jeroen

Inspiringfish
Thu May 11, 2006, 01:20 PM
Thanks Jeroen, you guys are great!!!! I will save this post.

Jeroen
Fri May 12, 2006, 12:32 AM
You're welcome mark.

I have treated the discus and it is allready gone for 80%, I am sure that over another 24 hours is completely cured.

Jeroen

ozarowana
Fri May 12, 2006, 03:33 AM
When doing the salt dip, don't be surprised if your fish rolls over and floats to the surface.

Merrilyn
Fri May 12, 2006, 06:32 AM
When doing the salt dip, don't be surprised if your fish rolls over and floats to the surface.

And that's definately the time to remove them from the salt, and put them back into clean water :wink: