EOI: Wild Caught & F1 South Americans

[Discus co-op]

At this stage just an EOI for parties interested in any of the following.

All fish are thoroughly screened after being wild caught.

In Sth America the fish are held for 3 weeks in self contained holding tanks with UV sterilization prior to being forwarded to the staging location where they are held for another 2 weeks in quarantine. From there they are freighted directly to Sydney where they are held for the normal required time (2 weeks) prior to being released to the public.

If you are interested in any of these species (and there are a lot more to add) please indicate by replying here.

Please do not PM or e-mail interest.

I stress this Expression Of Interest is to gather if there would be sufficient interest to ship these 100% wild caught fish to Australia.

Potential List:

Apist. Agassizi Flamengo apistogramma agassizi flamengo
Apist. Agassizi blue apistogramma agassizi blue
Apist. Albertini apistogramma albertini
Apist. Ambiacus apistogramma ambiacus
Apist. Apache apistogramma apache
Apist. Atahualpa apistogramma atahulpa
Apist. Baby face apistogramma baby face
Apist. Bitaeniata apistogramma bitaeniata
Apist. Bitaeniata yellow apistogramma bitaeniata
Apist. Blue eye apistogramma blue eye
Apist. Blue apistogramma blue
Apist. Cacatoide apistogramma cacatoide
Apist. Celeste apistogramma celeste
Apist. Curutu apistogramma curutu
Apist. Cruzi apistogramma cruzi
Apist. Diamond apistogramma diamond sp.
Apist. Eunotus apistogramma eunotus
Apist. Esmerald apistogramma esmerald
Apist. Frank apistogramma frank
Apist. Fresa apistogramma strawberry sp.
Apist. Galaxis apistogramma galaxis II
Apist. Gosey apistogramma gosey
Apist. Hauswell apistogramma hauswell
Apist. Huallaga apistogramma huallaga
Apist. Inka 50 apistogramma inka 50
Apist. Juruensis apistogramma juruensis
Apist. Laulate apistogramma laulate
Apist. Marine apistogramma marine
Apist. Mcmaster apistogramma macmaster
Apist. Melgar apistogramma melgar
Apist. Morthentaler apistogramma morthentaler
Apist. Napo apistogramma napo
Apist. Nijsseni apistogramma nijsseni
Apist. Napoensis apistogramma napoensis
Apist. Norberty apistogramma norberty
Apist. Orange apistogramma orange
Apist. Painted face apistogramma painted face
Apist. Pandurini apistogramma pandurini
Apist. Papagallo apistogramma papagallo
Apist. Paracas apistogramma paracas
Apist. Pevas apistogramma pevas
Apist. Pucallpensis apistogramma pucallpensis
Apist. Purple apistogramma purple
Apist. Ramirezi apistogramma ramirezi
Apist. Sanchez apistogramma sanchezi
Apist. Shishi-ta apistogramma shishi-ta
Apist. Shushupe apistogramma shushupe
Apist. Sunset apistogramma sunset
Apist. Viejita apistogramma viejita
Apist. Xupa New Kind Apisto

Black ulrrey Hypessobrycon ulrrey
Bleeding black point hypessobrycon copelandi
Bleeding heart hypessobrycon erythrostigma

Cory aeneus black corydora aeneus sp.
Cory aeneus corydora aeneus
Cory agassizi corydora agassizi
Cory albino corydora albino
Cory amadaensis corydora amadaensis
Cory ambiacus corydora ambiacus
Cory antonio corydora huangana
Cory arcuatus corydora arcuatus
Cory arcuatus corydora arcuatus
Cory arcuatus red gold corydora arcuatus red gold
Cory armatus corydora armatus
Cory black peru corydora black peru
Cory black corydora black sp.
Cory blochi corydora blochi blochi
Cory brillante corydora brillante
Cory copei corydora copei
Cory daniella corydora daniella
Cory dida corydora fowleri
Cory diego Corydora diego
Cory elegans corydora elegans
Cory evelinae Corydora evelinae
Cory green black Corydora green black
Cory green cat corydora brochis splends
Cory green fluorescent corydora green fluorescent
Cory hastatus corydora hastatus
Cory huanta corydora huanta
Cory jose luis corydora jose luis
Cory julii corydora julii
Cory kiko I corydora kiko I
Cory leucomela corydora leucomela
Cory leopardos corydora leopardos
Cory long nose brochis corydora long nose brovhis
Cory long nose luminous corydora long nose luminous
Cory melanistius corydora melanistius
Cory milagros Corydora milagros
Cory miguelito corydora zangama
Cory napoensis corydora napoensis
Cory nijsseni corydora nijsseni
Cory orange fluorecent corydora orange
Cory ornoptherus corydora ornoptherus
Cory panda corydora panda
Cory pastazensis corydora pastazensis
Cory punctatus corydora punctatus
Cory punctatus corydora punctatus
Cory rabauty cprydora rabauty
Cory reticulatus jumbo corydora reticulatus
Cory shiwa Corydora shiwa
Cory sychri corydora sychri
Cory sychri luminous corydora sychri sp.
Cory san juan corydora sanchesi
Cory xinguensis corydora xinguensis
Cory yellow cat corydora melanotaeniata
Cory zigatus corydora zigatus

Discus blue sympysodon sp. Blue
Discus nanay Sympysodon nanay
Discus red spotted sympysodon red spotted

Tetra argentine hypessobrucon argentine
Tetra azulino hypessobrycon azulino
Tetra castell hypessobrycon castell
Tetra castell golden hypessobrycon castell golden
Tetra celeste hypessobrycon celeste
Tetra golden hypessobrycon golden
Tetra lemon hypessobrycon lemon
Tetra light hypessobrycon light
Tetra loreto hypessobrycon loretoensis
Tetra palta hypessobrycon palta
Tetra pulcher hypessobrycon pulcher
Tetra puple hypessobrycon purple sp.
Tetra red gold crenuchus spirulu
Tetra red hypessobrycon red
Tetra requena hypessobrycon requena
Tetra roberthy hypessobry robertsy
Tetra sp. hypessobrycon sp.
Tetra tino male hypessobrycon tino
Tetra white hypessobrycon white

[Proteus]

EXCELLENT companions for Discus...

[Ben]

That is one stunning list for an EOI !!!
I have a couple of questions for you sir,

*Do you want us to be specific in what EOI we have? ie, how many of each species?

*Is this the whole list? the reason why i ask as it really only has dwarf cichlids, corys discus and a few tetras.

Would there be anything else added to the list in the near future?

The whole idea sounds great!
Ben

[Discus co-op]

At this stage we are simply gathering interest, but if the numbers are there, this will happen.

That list is what has been caught this week... most of them are regularly in stock however.

(the true list is actually 5-6 time longer, but due to the allowable import list, some cant be acessed)

If it is on the allowable import list here, and it is from anywhere in the Amazon basin (in particular the following Rivers):

AGUAITIA
AMAZONAS
CAQUETA
HUALLAGA
ITAYA
MARAÑON
MOMON
NANAY
NAPO
NAUTA
PASTAZA
PEVAS
TARAPOTO
TIGRE
UCAYALI

It should be obtainable.

[Katie]

Are you able to ship interstate or is this a Sydney area only deal?

[Discus co-op]

Australia wide

[Katie]

then you may count this as an expression of interest ;)

[heckelboy]

Fantastic

[Ben]

First of all count me in!
second where could i find on the net a list of fish that is allowed to be imported into Australia.

thanks,
Ben

[Ben]

You have me more excited than a child in a lolli shop! :P
One thing i would like if its allowed is young wild caught Uaru Cichlids (Uaru amphiacanthoides)

There are local bred Uaru's available in Australia but they are very interbred. So some new bloodlines is just whats needed!

Thanks again
Ben

Geeez, i am not going to be able to sleep tonite! :shock:

[wild_amazon]

I am interested in getting some wild discus and apistos. But that's depend on how much they cost.

[Proteus]

From what I am aware of with this, they will be cheaper than retail (probably by a long shot, as it is a group of hobbyists that is organising this, not a business, although some businesses will be needed to assist in the logistics)

Ben, it will be some weeks, if not months before this comes to fruition (due to permits, licences etc, etc) and it would benefit hobbyists in Australia and the United States.

[Ben]

"Good things come to those that wait"

This is just what serious Australian fish hobbist's needs!
New wild blood lines! There are a lot of fish (perticalur South American fish) That are way too inbred.

I look forward to when this happens!

Cheers,
Ben

[flukes]

I nearly fell of my chair when seeing that cory list!! :shock:

Also would mind some wild discus...

[DiscusMad]

thats great would love some wild discus!

[Merrilyn]

Hey you guys, the line for wild discus starts behind me. So quit shoving :lol:

Interested in Apistos, Corys, Tetras, Discus, and just about anything else you want to bring in. :wink:

[dreamer]

bring me those corydoras !!!

[mistakes r crucial]

Very interested in Discus, Cory's and Apisto's.
MAC

[wild_amazon]

I don't mind waiting. Thanks to the people that are organising this.
Let me know if I can help (seriously).

I would love some discus

[Dave76]

Count me in for some Discus & Corys.

*Pushes in front of Ladyred in the wild Discus line* :lol:

Dave

[wild_amazon]

I realise that the list is already very log but is it possible to add wild altum angelfish?

[Merrilyn]

I think they'll be pretty pleased with a long list :lol:

With regard to the wild altums, the tank bred ones from Germany have a much higher survival rate, and a greater chance of breeding in captivity, But I'd be willing to purchase a group of 6 just for the experiment. They do need a deep tank, at least 2 foot deep and preferably 2 foot 6 inches deep. May need to get one custom built if you're really interested.

[@fricans]

I would be definately getting a pair of each of these species: (If the price is reasonable )

Apistogramma bitaeniata
Apistogramma bitaeniata (Yellow)

Will you ship "Apist. elizabethae" as well?

[Merrilyn]

*stomps on Dave's toes with my very dainty high heels*

Excuse me gentlemen........ladies first :twisted:

*Moves to the front of the wild discus line*

[DiscusMad]

*trips Merrilyn over while she stomps on dave*

Out of the way woman I'll be there first! http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v411/hells/more/3_12_22.gif

[mistakes r crucial]

Merrilyn,

If you end up getting wild Altums I hope you fair better than we. A friend and I bought 24 about 8 months ago and over 3 weeks lost the lot, not one survived! A very expensive exercise.

It was very disappointing as we had the water just right etc but they would eat for a few days, start swimming in circles and then drop dead. Very strange and we never found out what the problem was. My wallet was crying for weeks!
MAC

[mtchye]

http://www.geocities.com/rainforest/jungle/4327/pricelist.html

The above link has a few of the lesser known species pics...

I like the A sp. Fresa and the other bitaeniata variants like the Shi-shita!

Too bad severums are not importable, check out that new Heros species listed on the link above! Bright red severum! :)

[Fishpimpin73]

The way that I heard this was that depending in interest and what not, this is just the start of something HUGE for the hobby in Oz.

[Merrilyn]

What rotten luck MAC. I have heard a lot of stories similar to yours about the wild altums. I was lucky enough to get three German tank bred altums from Kev 6 months ago. All healthy as horses. Darn, should have got a lot more. Fascinating fish.

[mistakes r crucial]

Tank bred is the way to go, far less heartache. I hope these wild Discus are far more obedient and obliging.
MAC

[Dave76]

Check out the rams on that link mtchye provided - very nice.......

Dave

[wild_amazon]

I have never seen Rams even close to that quality. And $15 per pair, $10 for wild altum :(

[Proteus]

That is US$ remember...

[wild_amazon]

Yes but probably in a couple of weeks our dollar will be as high as US$. :lol:

[mtchye]

Yeah some nice fish, too bad we won't be able to see pics of the actual fish we are getting if this order goes through...

Also... With rising US interest rates we should actually see a depreciation of the AUD against the USD... so make your overseas purchases soon :p

[ianmcd06]

please dont get my hopes up, i want some wild altums and cory's and maybe a few discus.

cheers,
Ian.

[Fishpimpin73]

I have a feeling that pictures would deff be possible.

[kevkoi]

Well, the advance party of fish will be hitting Australia sooner than expected... :lol:

These are not wild-caughts but F2 fish from wild.

Apistogramma that will be arriving in Aust on Thurs.

A. agassizi "blue" (Alenquer)
A. bitaeniata
A. macmasteri
A. macmasteri "Blue head"
A. papagalo
A. trifasciata maciliensis
A. cactuoides "double red"

These are among the easier to keep, not overly pricey apistogramma. Fish like A. elizabethae can be rather touchy, sensitive and pricey, noting that our quarantine laws require that the cichlids be kept in quarantine for a period of no less than 2 weeks from date of arrival and each species be kept separate, this becomes a very risky option to import a few fish because the market for specialist apistogramma is limited.

*imagine if there is interest for only 3pairs (6fish) of A.elizabethae, these 6 fish will have to take up residence in a 2ft x 18" x 18" tank for 2 weeks. 6 fish will tie down a whole quarantine tank, which does not make it cost effective to quarantine.

I have some interesting corydoras coming available in the coming weeks (arrangements being made atm). If there is interest in any particular type of corydora, let me know and I'll see if we can make arrangements to bring in at least 50 fish (depending on price and availability) of each species.

I have on order for 70pc of 6cm Altum Angels (Orinoco REAL altums). I'm just awaiting their arrival.

Unfortunately uaru, severum and the various earth eaters cannot be imported into Australia so there is no point in putting up the available fish list.

Wild discus will be available in about 6-7weeks time after Aquarama. These wild discus are currently being stabilised for Aquarama in Singapore and after the show, some of them will be making their way down-under. ;)

We're working on things... we're doing the best we can. PATIENCE... :wink:

[kevkoi]

Oh, here are some pictures of an Apistogramma breeding farm. This farm is also in an import/export facility so they get a regular supply of South American fish coming thru. New blood is constantly added to their breeding program.

This farm supplies much of Europe and their parent company is in Belgium.

[kevkoi]

Stock tanks.... fish for sale

[dreamer]

what kind of cories are available? aenus sp gold/red/green/black, arcuatus, pulcher, gossei, geryi are in my shopping list ...pending on price :)

[goldenpigeon]

im on the list for wild discus, altum angels, apistos. and corry's if the price is good.

[kevkoi]

Another rare apistogramma added to the shipment..

Apistogramma pucallpaensis from Peru.
http://www.rva.ne.jp/apisto/pucallpaensis.html

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Corydoras aeneus "neon stripes" (various colour) are on my "to source for" list.

Corydoras arcuatus is definately available although I think they are already being bred in Aust and the locally bred stock may be cheaper than the imported.

will look into C.pulcher and C.geryi
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[faewyn]

:shock:

Kev, stop it, apistos always make me squirm 8-)

[Ben]

Hi,
I know it has only been a couple of weeks but is thier any update on this EOI?

cheers,
Ben

[Proteus]

I am currently in the U.S. at the moment...

will know more soon , however Kevkoi has some of the Apistos etc already here, or on there way.

[dreamer]

any updates on this? i want my cory ....badly :p

[kevkoi]

Apistos coming out next week...

Corydoras are on order. Maybe on the following shipments.

kev

[dreamer]

what sp? hope they are exotic cory :p

[Darth_discus]

count me in even thought i am a beginner and fourteen and know a bit on discus

[revkev]

count me in for discus.
Revkev

[Proteus]

Please refer to this post for info on some very nice Discus, and Discus tank mates...

http://www.discusforums.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=3016

[colinM]

He'll this is 1 long Q.
Very interested in wild caught discus particulary red spots.
P.S Please advise if I can assist you and others on the site with logistics, freight. etc- "Contacts" that will enable to assist and benefit all.
Thanks for the post.
Colin M

[Proteus]

Colin, if you get in touch with Kevkoi I am sure he can work something out for you.

As for freight, he is also the man to speak to... alternatives and options are always a good thing

[Ben]

Hi Discus Co-Op,
Any update with the list?

Cheers,
Ben

[Proteus]

Kev is pretty much looking after things (for the moment).

From what I personally know, the logistics of getting any Wild caught fish, or anything at all from SA are quite complicated...

[Sime76]

Definitely interested in the apisto side of things!!! Hell yeah!!
Count me in

Damn...another tank..here we come

Cheers
Simon