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Reillin
Sun May 06, 2007, 12:32 PM
Gday fellow Apisto fanatics,

The hype/craze over Apistogramma sp. seems to be a rollercoaster ride. It can be in the flavour of the season and at other times a side-mention. This leads to an uneven supply of Apistogramma and some species are even lost to the hobby because their line are not continued by the person keeping them.

I propose that we start a registry of what Apisto someone is breeding and have fry that they are willing to share (sell, of course) with other fellow fanatics. With this list, it will make it easy for people to increase bloodlines and maintain a strain of apistos. I think this list is important for Apistogramma in Australia, since the source of wildcaught Apistogramma from Peru seems to be intermittent.

Having been out of the apistos due to renovations, I will soon have a rack dedicated to apistos. 24 tanks (1x18x18). Now to choose and not go overboard.

Cheers,
Vien.


Thoughts?

Cheers,
Vien.

Th0mas
Sun May 06, 2007, 01:50 PM
Buddy - that's great effort of you.

It has been a real rollercoaster ride with the hobby. I've seen some really good F0 coming in over the years (back in late 90s), with limited success but extremely difficult to replenish good stock once I lost the breeder. In my current situation, I've lost all female of the sp. Rio Mamore and the breeding pucallpaensis female.

Here's my current profile:

apistogramma:
F1 baenschi
agassizi Tefe redback (bloodline unknown)
F1 macmasteri
elizabethae "red" (German bloodline)
hongsloi (German bloodline)
F1 apistogrammoides pucallpaensis

Hopefully when I can get organise and consolidate them a bit, I can start with more species.

Latest addition:
iniridae (German, still growing out)
borelli "Paraguay" (F0, not breeding yet)

In the past, have bred and raised the following (for the record):

bitaeniata (from F0 parents)
agassizi double red
iniridae (from F0 parents)
nijsseni
panduro (from F0 parents)
hongsloi

Cheers,
Thomas.

AussieStar
Mon May 07, 2007, 07:33 AM
this is great idea, im looking into settng a few tanks up, saving some money first.

Robdog
Mon May 07, 2007, 01:22 PM
Well I'm all but out of the apisto game these days. I've only got 2 left and they are up for grabs if anyone wants them.

1 A. Rio Mamore male(like Th0mas my female died)
1 A. baenschi female F1 from Th0mas

starreys
Tue May 08, 2007, 12:35 PM
great idea vien,

im looking still for a female my male pertense, hmm guess they are not too popular here in Melbourne

Bubbles
Fri Jun 15, 2007, 04:04 AM
Your a genius vien.
Here is what we have.

Apistogramma;
*Agassizi Tefe redback - M&F (From ThOmas)
*Baenschi - 1M Adult & 2F Sub-adult (From ThOmas)
*Hongsloi Redline various Sub adults (German Bred)
*Borelli - Paraguay FO Sub adults & F1 Fry (From ThOmas)
*Elizabethae - FO Sub-Adult Male (Ravi - AquaticEscape)

Apistogramma's - Used To Have;
*Bitaeniata Shushupe M&F (Wild from Ravi - Finland Aquarium)
*Agassizi Double Reds M&3F (From Ravi - Findland Aquarium)
*Agassizi M&F - German Bred (Subscape) "Passed away" :cry:
*Athahulpa - M&2F ?forgot spelling (Wild from Ravi - Findland Aquarium)
*Bitaeniata Marines M&F (Wild from Ravi - Findland Aquarium)
*Agassizi Flamingo's - M&F (Wild from Ravi - Findland Aquarium)
*Pebas - Adult pair (Wild from Ravi - Findland Aquarium)
*Nijsseni - Adult M&F
*Agassizi's - M&F (From Ben - Amazing Amazon) Sold
*Borelli Opal's M&F Adult & Fry (From AA) "Passed away" :cry:
*Hongsloi Redline Adult Male - "Passed away" :cry:
*Pandurini pair - Adult M&F "SOLD"
*Juruensis aka - Black Chin/Fanta F1 Adult - M&F
*Gephyra - Blue variant F1 Adult - M&F
*Pebas - F1 Sub adults M&F - "passed away" :cry:
*Cacatoidies Tripple Red & Fry - German Bred "SOLD"

So many losses but so much passion for the Apistogramma.

Wish List;
1 pair of ThOmas's Ap.Elizabethae Red :D :D :D
1 pair Ap.agassizii gephyra blue var
1 pair Ap.uaupesi
1 pair Ap.trifasciata trifasciata
1 pair Ap.juruensis "black chin/Fanta"

Robdog
Fri Jun 15, 2007, 07:54 AM
Might help if you get some correct I.D's on some of those fish Bubbles. Names like Marines and Shushupes aren't really that relevant anymore as they are just colour varients most of the time.
Probably best to be species specific if possible

Bubbles
Fri Jun 15, 2007, 09:38 AM
Sorry Robdog, was not really concentrating too much on what we "USED TO" have & more on what we have at the moment. I think people are not going to be too concerned on what we had in the past as much as what we have now. My husband & I love Apisto's for their beauty & shape & because they are a challenge we never got right into the name specific's just love having them.

Robdog
Fri Jun 15, 2007, 10:17 AM
No drama at all Bubbles. Sorry if it sounded like I was having a go.
To be honest it wasn't the Marine and Shushushushu that rang alarms for me. The Flamingo's if I remember correctly were A. agassizi.

Bubbles
Fri Jun 15, 2007, 10:37 AM
I'm glad you responded back Robdog, I thought you might have been having a go at me, I'm now happy you were not. I have gone back into my post & corrected my mistakes.

TW
Tue Jun 19, 2007, 08:06 AM
Hi there

Currently I have:-

A. agassizi (1M + 2F)
A.cacatuoides (1M + 1F)
Pelvicachromis taeniatus Nigerian Red Male only

I only have fry from a pair of Kribensis


Anyone have a spare female Pelvicachromis taeniatus Nigerian Red you'd be willing to sell?

Cheers

Noddy65
Tue Jun 19, 2007, 11:45 AM
Ok...my turn..

A. baenschi
A. melgar

Updated after move to Sydney in early 2008

Mike :D

TW
Thu Nov 01, 2007, 09:18 PM
Anyone have a spare male Agassizi up for sale? Looking to buy one, if available. Cheers,

Th0mas
Thu Nov 01, 2007, 09:31 PM
Anyone have a spare male Agassizi up for sale? Looking to buy one, if available. Cheers,

Which variant are you looking for?

TW
Thu Nov 01, 2007, 09:46 PM
Hi Thomas

The trio were sold to be 2nd hand just as Agassizi. I think his colouring was just the standard type (with the orange tail & fins). I might have a picture at home & if so, I'll post it.

Unfortunately, I had him, his 2 wives & fry in a tank & last wednesday week & did a water change & then found him dead on Saturday. I had forgotten to turn the heater back on. Most of the fry are dead as well, but both females survived the cold.

If I have a pic at home, I'll post it tonight.

Cheers,

Bubbles
Fri Nov 02, 2007, 12:43 AM
Hey TW,

Sorry to hear of your losses :cry:

We are only human - we all make mistakes.

Lucky you have the female & some fry & you did'nt loose them all.

Someone within the Forum will be able to help you out - ThOmas or Noddy65 will have Agassizi's but depends on what your Aggie Female's are, ThOmas & I have Aggie Tefe's but they are not compatible with your Aggie Females.

Cheers,
Bubbles aka Karen

TW
Sat Nov 03, 2007, 04:02 AM
Thanks Bubbles for the kind words. I've only seen one fry survivor. Mum's no longer guarding so I never know where to find him to feed him. If he sees me, he darts away. I'm not that confident he'll make it, though I did spot him today.

Found some pictures of the male, all bad. Include a few here so members can get the general idea of what type of aggie he is.

If anyone in Sydney has the right male & willing to sell, pls let me know.

Or if you're not prepared to sell, perhaps you'd prefer to have my females? I don't like to think of them all lonely in my tank.

http://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l128/TankWatcher/90L/000_1130-1.jpg http://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l128/TankWatcher/90L/000_1286.jpg

Hope someone can help me out. Thanks in advance.

Bubbles
Sun Nov 04, 2007, 04:46 AM
Hey TW,

Firstly - Nice looking tank :wink: & your fish look nice & healthy & full off colour, looking at the aggie pics he looks like my double red in fact almost a twin, If I was to guess - I'd say he is a Agassizi Double Red. sad for your loss he was a beautiful fish & I think it would be worth holding on to your females & getting another double red, just my opinion.

ThOmas knows all the good LFS in Sydney, it would be worth sending him a PM. We have had some very good/healthy fish from Thomas & from his LFS :thumb

Good luck with your quest, I hope you find another male for your females.

Keep us all informed, have included a pic of our aggie below.

Cheers,
Bubbles aka Karen :D

TW
Sun Nov 04, 2007, 12:21 PM
Thanks Bubble,

So I will have to start my search for a "double red".

Thanks for sharing the picture of your male. He is a nice looking fish. Where yours is red, mine is orange. Otherwise, very similar.

Cheers,

jkomaromi
Sun Dec 23, 2007, 12:44 PM
Triple red cacatuoids
double red cacatuoids
Orange flame cacatuoids
Double red agassisi (blue body)javascript:emoticon(':D')
Cheers
John

boost.puppy
Sun Mar 30, 2008, 07:41 AM
anyone with a female Borelli up for sale? I have a nice looking lonely male :)

amazon dee
Sat Apr 05, 2008, 07:39 AM
Hi there,
I am new to forum but have joined only to converse with othwer appisto lovers.
I too have have great deal of trouble getting them.
I have to travel to find them so it is even more difficult.

I have only one aggazzi at present, cant tell if male or female.

Please keep me on your list and up to date.

I would love to get more, and eventually breed them, read my profile get in touch
Amazon dee

Hassles
Mon May 26, 2008, 06:33 AM
A.cacatuoides orange-flash (German)
A.gibbiceps (German)
A.bitaeniata - parentage unconfirmed
A.baensch Inka50 - parentage unconfirmed
A.trifasciata - parentage unconfirmed
A.hauscar (German)
A.hippolytae (German)
A.agassizi fire-red (German)
A.abacaxis - parentage unconfirmed
A.panduro (wild)
A.masken - parentage unconfirmed
A.iniridae - parentage unconfirmed
A.alacrina - German Bred & Wild caught
A.pullcapaensis - parentage unconfirmed

katchan
Wed May 28, 2008, 01:34 AM
:banghead
well if only the tasmanian IFS laws were a bit easier, so the average person could get some of these nice fish in (as opposed to depending on most of standard stock our LFS's have).

I currentley have (dwarves in general0
A. panduro (2 f, I think))
A. macmasteri f0 (1m, 1f, 2?)
1m keyhole

have had in the past (hobart and bris)
A. cacatuoides
A. agassizii
A. njiessini
A. sp. "blue steel"
A. enotus (sp?)

D. filamentosus
N. anomala
M. ramerezi
M. altisphona (sp is way off :roll: )

various kribs

um others but i cant think at the moment

Pixeltoy
Fri Oct 02, 2009, 10:32 PM
Come on Apisto fans! Where are your all?
I am in Sydney and have been searching high and low for Apisto Baenschi (Inka 50).
ABSOLUTELY IMPOSSIBLE TO SOURCE
Where are they? Who is breeding them?

Hassles
Sat Oct 24, 2009, 09:20 AM
Come on Apisto fans! Where are your all?
I am in Sydney and have been searching high and low for Apisto Baenschi (Inka 50).
ABSOLUTELY IMPOSSIBLE TO SOURCE
Where are they? Who is breeding them?

The fish you are after is not a common Apisto by any means. Unless they come in from abroad OR someone local manages to breed a pair they may have you will have to wait. I think it is fair to say that all we Apisto folk are waiting for something and we 'usually' have a short list.

take care

Apistoguy
Mon Mar 08, 2010, 02:24 PM
A list of my breeding stock:

A. Agassizii (German-Double Red) 1 x M + 2 x F.
A.Agassizii (German-Firestorm) 1 x Pair.

A.Borelli (German-Opal) 1 x Pair.
A.Baenschi (German-Inka 50) 1 x Pair.
A.Bitaeniata (German-Yellow) 1 x Pair.

A.Cacatuoide (German-Triple Red) 1 x Pair.
A.Cacatuoide (German-Orange Flash) 1 x Male.

A.Hongsloi (German) Similar to "Sp.Redstroke" 2 x Pairs.

A.Pebas (German-Sp.Morado Purple) 1 x Pair.

A.Trifasciata (Unknown Parentage) 1 x Pair.

Other Dwarf Breeding Stock:

Ramirezi (German-Blue) 1 x Pair.
Ramirezi (German-Gold) 1 x Pair.
Ramirezi (German-Electric Blue) 1 x Pair.

Pelvicachromis Taeniatus (German-Kienke) 1 x Pair.
Pelvicachromis Taeniatus (German-Nigerian Red) 1 x Female.

Hoping to aquire some P.T "Lobe" & "Moliwe" very soon.

jkomaromi
Sun May 23, 2010, 01:47 PM
You can get a female borelli from me

alannahindir
Mon May 24, 2010, 03:07 PM
Im currently keeping (thanks to apistoguy!):
A.Cacatuoide - Trio
A.Hongsloi - Trio

Hoping to breed them! Currently in my four foot, 340L tank. But will be going into breeding tanks (hopefully) when i move.

:)