DISCUS - LYING ON SIDE

[Ray.M]

Thanks Jothy,

Do you keep adding epsom salt with every water change ?

That is, say 50% water change each day (20 litres) add 0.5 tbs epsom salt ?

Is there any benefit adding 1gr/l aquarium sea salt also ?

Thanks,
Ray

[ILLUSN]

re dosing the epson salt is a good idea as you said if you do 50% put .5 tbs in.

salt and epson salt work in opposite ways salt balance ionic stress so kind helps water move into tissue, epson salt drive water out.

you use one or ther other not both at the same time.

hows the fish doing?

[Ray.M]

Thanks Jothy,

No real improvement although he has been trying to swim without success.

He appears to have a sore on his body - halfway up near his gills. it 'appears' like he has grazed it with the skin removed.

I am doing 50% water changes per day + epsom salt + 10mg/l metro.

Will give it a few days.

If things don't improve do you have a humane way of putting down a fish, I don't like to see things suffer ?

It's sad how quickly a fish that appeared healthy can turn around.

Ray

[Ray.M]

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[Nev]

Thanks Jothy,
If things don't improve do you have a humane way of putting down a fish, I don't like to see things suffer ?
Ray

Place it in a container and place that into the freezer section of you fridge, slows down then and eventually shuts down the metabolism. Fish don't suffer.

[lpiasente]

You can use clove oil. then put him in the freezer

[Mr Wild]

Clove oil is the best they slowing sleep then just die I think freezing is terrible.

Search on this site for the recipe.

[ILLUSN]

looks bloated to me gut obstruction effecting swim bladder, notice how the eyes are starting to bulge.

epson salts will help stop the fish absorbing too much water, but if it doesnt pass the blockage it will die, metro will stop any infections getting in the wound liiks like a heater burn.

DO NOT FREEZE A LIVE FISH!

Get a small bucket or ice cream tub and fill with tank water and add an air stone. It's best if you can float this in a spare tank to keep the fish warm.

Place the fish in the bucket/tub and start adding clove oil 1 drop at a time( say every 30 seconds) untill the fish stops breathing.

Once the fish has stoped breathing add another 2-3 drops just to be sure.

After 10 minutes you can be sure the fish is dead, dispose of it responsibly.

[Ray.M]

Thanks to all.

The fish is still alive and 'seems' to be improving - is trying to swim!!

Will keep you updated.

I really appreciate all the help very much.

Ray

[Ray.M]

Sad to say but I have just put my Mosaic Eruption down.
I tried everything I could do. Metro, epsom salt, tetracycline and 50% water changes every day.
He was a fighter, he tried to swim but always ended up lying on his side.
He must have had a ruptured swimming bladder.
His wound was healing so it wasn't an infection that was stopping him swimming.
He hadn't been eating and was deteriorating. I looked after him for four weeks.
It was very hard to administer the clove oil and watch him die but it is better than watching him die slowly.

Thanks to everyone for their help it is very much appreciated.