what to do

[gro]

have posted lately but now urgent.....

got rid of bg alae with an anti boitic from lfs.....discus ok

treated possible flukes with para-cide from lfs......

pride and joy discus..had for over two years got bad quick..

not eaten in week....topfin becoming white...

has not moved from hiding hole for a week...discolouration

one spot above eye cleared up thought things were going ok...

did massive water change as directed after anti biotic course..

tummy bloated and white

large spots still there...now a bit round mouth....

dont want to lose him...

water tests are fine...canister clean....

other discus is also not so interested in food but goes for it once settled...

they have always eaten from the bottom rather than the top...

im kinda not into the chem thing every time i try it something goes wrong!!

[Hollowman]

ok, sorry to hear you have problems,

What exactly are your water parameters? can you post them please, also temp? planted or BB, water change regime? have you added any new fish without QT?

Lots of questions, but it will help diagnose

Hollowman

[gro]

planted tank - all this kinda started with the blue green algea bloom.

ph 6.5 - nit -0 am -0 temp round 28.5 (unless test kit is stuffed)

yes there was water quality issues, that started this whole thing, but maybe it was too late.

the fluke flikering was not too bad when started the anti -biotics, but the spots came after treatment started.

(this has happened before - once i start treatments the condition excelerates)

am collecting items from friends to start a hospital tank, but worried that trying to catch him might freak him out.

(lost a discus once trying to catch loaches)

Lfs said it was fine to dose community tank, other disc fine.

i want to remove some cripts and water change water change water change, but he is taking refuge under them

maybe i should not have stuffed aroung with the chem and just WC.

bit lost and not confident with the sick issues, the only other sickness i have i experienced was hole in the head and VET advice didnt help that either.

now the spots have arrived, should i be using the natural fungal stuff the Vet recommended

thanks

Lost and confused!

[ILLUSN]

Thats bad luck, the antibiotics proably disrupted the normal flora in the gut of the fish, once this happens is difficult for the fish to digest food propperly and then other infections can set in. if you have a bb hosp tank, get him in there, set the temp at 30C and add PLENTY of airation.


try an epson salt bath to get him to empty the contents of his stomach, it will help bring the bloating down.

try to temp him with live food, add salt at 2tsp/40L.

you could try some natural antifungul stuff (I assume its tea tree oil based) but I've never had much luck with it.

if you can get him eating again he'll proably pull through, if he is still nice and full in the face, the fat reserves there can keep him going for a week or so without food, after that your chances of saving him arn't anyware near as good.

[gro]

thanks

so high temp takes care of nasties

epsom salts clear belly

and yea he still is full (he was quite fat before)

the tank should be around the 40lite mark??

[ILLUSN]

40L IS GOOD

[gro]

frustrating!!!!!

went to lfs shop to get parts for the hospital tank.....showed them this photo and now they are suggesting condis crytals AKA potassium hypermananate....

sounds boody scarey to me - burning the fish skin - that sounds great...

i am not so conident with this idea.....

[gro]

the white spots are like pimples....lfs say not white spot......

so confused......think i might have to wait for forum replies before i start frying my fish in solution that burns....

thanks in advance

[ILLUSN]

pp works wonders for surface ailments and flukes, you can use it safely at 5-10mg/L for a 10 min bath.

you'll have to recuild the fish slimecoat after with salt (1tsp/40L)

[gro]

thanks,

normal salt?

and how long do you bath it then?

thanks again...