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Thu Jan 31, 2008, 09:28 PM
#11
Originally Posted by taksan
Originally Posted by rwel4809
Originally Posted by taksan
Rubbish the scumbags in the Amazon would just be boiling them up to make soup otherwise. The whole region is full of the lowest common denominator in humankind and the sooner Discus are removed from any contact with them the better.
Interesting view you have of indigenous people Taksan
I do hope you're joking ... Man and fish must have lived together in equilibrium in the Amazon for many centuries, if not millenia, before we worked out how to keep Discus in tanks, pollute their waters, and bulldoze their ecosystem.. Makes me wonder who the 'scumbags' really are
Been there recently? ..... I have and I stand by my comments.
I'll let you know - I plan to go at the end of the year...
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Sat Feb 02, 2008, 03:57 AM
#12
Re: Wild Caught ethics
Originally Posted by GreenDiscus
The clear comparison is: Would Austrlaians like to see the Barrier Reef stripped of Marine Fish to supply the USA Market ??
Ummmm... hate to tell you but....
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Wed Feb 06, 2008, 01:12 PM
#13
taksan may I ask what did u see at the amazon villages?
You prefer to strip off those peole's meal in exchange for your hobby?
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Wed Feb 06, 2008, 02:02 PM
#14
Moderator
Originally Posted by Fishontherun
taksan may I ask what did u see at the amazon villages?
You prefer to strip off those peole's meal in exchange for your hobby?
its probably the other way around, he providing for them by buying fish. plus they dont eat tigrinus.
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Wed Feb 06, 2008, 10:07 PM
#15
Originally Posted by samir
Originally Posted by Fishontherun
taksan may I ask what did u see at the amazon villages?
You prefer to strip off those peole's meal in exchange for your hobby?
its probably the other way around, he providing for them by buying fish. plus they dont eat tigrinus.
They do eat them Samir ..... they do.
At the fish market I saw probably $250,000 worth of tigs and a couple of million dollars worth of rays for sale (dead as food) for something like $10.
Smart people the locals .... like a block of wood.
"If it isn't a wild its way too mild ! "
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Wed Feb 06, 2008, 10:46 PM
#16
At the fish market I saw probably $250,000 worth of tigs and a couple of million dollars worth of rays for sale (dead as food) for something like $10.
what a ******* waste!
especially given the generation time of those fish!!!!!!!
what size were they?
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Thu Feb 07, 2008, 12:12 AM
#17
Wow! Those are some strong and arrogant comments. May be you will understand better if you don't have anything to eat and have resort to fishing fish from the river to feed yourself or sell the fish you caught from the river to feed your family. May be you can enlighten us some more based on what you saw and help us see your viewpoint. People eat fish, and discus are fish. Nothing wrong with eating discus.
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Thu Feb 07, 2008, 01:49 AM
#18
g'day all....i don't really buy into these sort of arguments, but i will say one thing...not all parts of the world are as fortunate as ourselves.If this what the local people have to do to sustain themselves, who are we to question or denigrate them.Perhaps if THEY got the couple of million, things would be better all round.I think , despite having a great love for discus, that people will always be more important than fish. I wonder how much per fish the locals get when we pay hundreds for their fish. Quit frankly, i find some of the comments here to be quite offensive - let's never forget how fortunate we are compared to some.
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Thu Feb 07, 2008, 05:10 AM
#19
Originally Posted by dntx5b9
Wow! Those are some strong and arrogant comments. May be you will understand better if you don't have anything to eat and have resort to fishing fish from the river to feed yourself or sell the fish you caught from the river to feed your family. May be you can enlighten us some more based on what you saw and help us see your viewpoint. People eat fish, and discus are fish. Nothing wrong with eating discus.
Maybe you would understand better if you went there and discovered that 98% of the areas population are not Indians in villages but gold miners and normal people working in the cattle, rubber and trade industries who no more need to resort to subsistence fishing then we do. Maybe if you saw the hundreds of carcasses of dead rays left rotting beside the water that have been speared and left on the riverbank to die because ignorant locals think they might step on one. Maybe if you saw the rotting heads of Tapirs that have been slaughtered after wandering onto plantations.
Maybe if you were offered a fresh Jaguar skin and when you refused were offered a starving cub that was taken when its mother was slaughtered for that skin. Maybe if you were offered baby monkeys, sloths, caiman as pets or food all taken illegally by a local police officer. Maybe if you saw the raw sewerage being pumped into the the river ....the money being made by the forest rapists ... maybe ...maybe I could go on and on.
Maybe if you knew anything about the reality of the situation instead of your national geographic postcard view you might think differently about your precious Amazonians.
"If it isn't a wild its way too mild ! "
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Thu Feb 07, 2008, 12:03 PM
#20
Moderator
Originally Posted by taksan
They do eat them Samir ..... they do.
what a bunch of morons.
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