Another nice wild

[Xtreme]

This is what they looked like b4 he got them:

20 doesnt look too bad :P

[scott bowler]

yep 20 would be a good number hehe

[samir]

This is what they looked like b4 he got them:

20 doesnt look too bad :P

that's only about 1/10 th of a normal spawn :P

[garikfox]

Wow, I love those fish !

[mattster]

lovely discus, very nice color to them

[Lee C]

[scott bowler]

thats a nice blue i love the ring . nice fish lee c

[Reillin]

Gday Merrilyn,

Although I cannot say I do know the reason behind Mr Tomsky's decision to breed them in a planted tank, but it would make an informative post to try and reason why he would be so.

Being a wild fish, I would imagine the Vallisneria would give them a feeling of security, not to mention Vallisneria sp. are extremely hardy and their added help in absorbing nitrates and nitrites will help keep the system clean.

Since he has been able to breed them in such as system, we can assume that they do not require extremely low pH for the eggs and fry to survive, unlike some of the Apistogramma sp.. I have talked to a gentleman in Mebourne who keeps some wild greens and he says that the fish are hardy and when well conditioned have bred in his tank without the need for R/O water and low pH. I have read from Bernd Degen that fry growing up in medium-hard water thrive more than fry kept in soft, acidic breeding conditions.

I would like to add one last thing. It could be simply that they are a magnificent fish and it would be a pity to keep them in bare surroundings, thus Mr. Tomsky has fulfilled many goals desired by many people in the hobby. He has managed to keep a wildcaught species in pristine and beautiful surrounds and even managed to breed them.


Although there may be other reasons, I will leave it for other people's inputs.

Cheers,
Vien.

[Xtreme]

Do you think it might have had something to do with the weather as they have only been bred in 2004, wilds and heckels
Mayb we will have to wait until 2008 for it to happen again

[samir]

as far as I know, its the Heckels that are hard to breed.
dunno about the planted tank and security thing but i feel a lot of people on this forum could breed a wild brown, in a bare bottom tank, without too many problems.