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FishLover
Fri Feb 10, 2006, 11:49 PM
Has anyone used this product? It claims to lower PH and soft water at the same time. I'm using peat to soft my water and lower PH. If I can use this product, it willl be much easier. I have to treat my water for more than 6 hours to soft it and lower the ph to about 7.2

What's the difference between PH Down and Discus buffer? I know PH Done does not work in my case because the PH shoot back to 8.3 in a day or so after I used it. Would Discus Buffer be different?

Thanks

goldenpigeon
Sat Feb 11, 2006, 01:02 AM
i prefer not to use many chemicals. if the peat works well for you then i suggest you keep using it. to use all the buffers etc costs a lot of money after a short while.

Ben
Sat Feb 11, 2006, 01:30 AM
I have tried the seachem discus buffer and find it an excellent product!

http://www.seachem.com/products/product_pages/DiscusBuffer.html

It will lower the Ph as well as the hardness of the water so it stabilizes the water at a lower PH and will not shoot back up.

Although it is expensive, i paid $50 for 1 kilo it is easy to use and will last a while.

Whilst peat is good to use, there will be a lot of "touch and go" to work out the right balance.

HTH

Ben

BigFoot
Sat Feb 11, 2006, 05:52 PM
I was considering a buffer to. Does anyone use or has used this with discus?


http://www.bigalsonline.com/catalog/product.xml?product_id=30813;category_id=2237;pcid 1=2207;pcid2=

FishLover
Sat Feb 11, 2006, 07:04 PM
Thanks Ben. I will try it out in combinations with peat first. Peat is not cheap too. I use about $3 of peat for every water change. That adds up very quickly since I change 40% of water every 5 days (about $220 per year just for peat!)

On top of that, I will have to wait air and treatthe water 5-6 hours before it is ready.

Do you have to wait for hours before water is ready when use Discus Buffer?

One kg for $50 sounds too much. Here is a on line store I buy things from all the time and they have it for about $15 per kg

http://www.drsfostersmith.com/product/prod_display.cfm?pcatid=4111&Ntt=discus%20buffer&Ntk=All&Ntx=mode+matchallpartial&Np=1&pc=1&N=2004&Nty=1

According to the site, 1 kilo should treat about 3200 gallons of water, which easily last me for a year. Compare with the $220 for peat, I think it is a bargain! I'm going to give it a try for sure.

Proteus
Sat Feb 11, 2006, 08:30 PM
ok, timely reminder...

PLEASE, place your locations (even at least country) in your profiles.

AU$50 for 1kg Discus Buffer is a good price down here (which equates to approx US$38)

FishLover
Sun Feb 12, 2006, 07:08 PM
I just read it from the Seachem Site. This product is a phosphate based buffer. Since I have a planted tank. Is that going to get my alge grwoing like crazy? I don't want that for sure. I turn my lights 12 hours a day.