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Phenomena
Mon Jan 02, 2006, 01:10 AM
Hi all,

Don't mean to stir the pot. What locality of altifrons are they as there are so many different localities?

I have similar fish, but not from the same breeder/source. I'm posting a new thread for it:
http://www.discusforums.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=46473#46473

Cheers,
DD

Proteus
Mon Jan 02, 2006, 06:13 AM
Don't mean to stir the pot. What locality of altifrons are they as there are so many different localities?

Questions are fine, especially when asked the correct way. It isnt so much teh locality of the altifrons, it is more the large Geophagus group that causes a lot of confusion.

goldfish
Mon Jan 02, 2006, 11:19 AM
hey the picture looks identical to my branchybronchis...i think that is how its spelt

Proteus
Mon Jan 02, 2006, 11:30 AM
Geophagus brachybranchus commonly known as the orange head.

It is quite distinct from the altifrons, being that it has Orange flashing on its head and dorsal fin, as well as dark striations throughout its body

One of the nicer Geophagus IMO

http://www.aquanet.de/privat/albering/Bilder/geoph-orange-head-1.jpg

emp1re
Mon Jan 02, 2006, 11:35 AM
If the fishes is purchased form SLS , a year ago . THe fishes is mostly come from Andrew (a.k.a AMK or AMG) , [ correct me if i m wrong , KEvkoi ]

the type was Geophagus altifrons " Aripuana""

here is a link of the spawn http://www.aceforums.com.au/index.php?showtopic=9073

THere is no Geophagus altifrons avaliable privately for less than $40 ,
retail was around $70-$90

Proteus
Mon Jan 02, 2006, 11:41 AM
You are correct regarding the source, although not told by Andrew himself, word was a couple of months ago he lost the breeding pair.

From the research I have done over the past 3-4 months (being that I have 2 of Andrews spwan) they are either aripuana or rio xingu

emp1re
Mon Jan 02, 2006, 11:41 AM
Geophagus altifrons and Geophagus bradybranchus are two specie people
usually confuse with


hey the picture looks identical to my branchybronchis...i think that is how its spelt

bradybrancus a.k.a black throat , hence it have a black marking at it throat region

whereas altifrons don't have the black marking, furthermore the slope of the altifrons head is more acute

Proteus
Mon Jan 02, 2006, 11:49 AM
(topic split from the Classifieds area)

Phenomena
Mon Jan 02, 2006, 11:26 PM
Proteus, I firmly believe the fish you linked to is not brachybranchus. It's Geophagus sp. Tapajos Orange/Red Head. I think that website is wrong.

Brachybranchus aka black throat is readily available here and often sold as surinamensis as they're very similar. So does altifrons.

Here're some pics of brachy:

http://www.aquanet.de/homepages/darda/Webbilder/Geophaguscfbrachybranchus.html

http://www.asw.ca/gallery/view_photo.php?set_albumName=cbiggs&id=Geophagusbrachybranchus_1

http://www.aquanet.de/privat/russegger/galerie/brachybranchus3.jpg

Can anyone comment on my fish as to what they are? Link on the very top.

Thanks,
DD

emp1re
Tue Jan 03, 2006, 11:13 AM
link Proteus provides is of a red/orange head i.e Geophagus Rio Tapajos "Orange Head", which is not

a Geophagus brachybranchus

Proteus
Tue Jan 03, 2006, 11:20 AM
If the fishes is purchased form SLS , a year ago . THe fishes is mostly come from Andrew (a.k.a AMK or AMG) , [ correct me if i m wrong , KEvkoi ]

the type was Geophagus altifrons " Aripuana""

here is a link of the spawn http://www.aceforums.com.au/index.php?showtopic=9073

THere is no Geophagus altifrons avaliable privately for less than $40 ,
retail was around $70-$90

I should like to state for the record, that the ACE site does not allow any mention of this sites name, or links or anything similar to appear on it.

Reason, they dont like me personally, and, Discus are hybrids??? OMG!!!

Regardless of there reasons, the link to that site remains...

and to think, some of those fish images posted on ACE are my fish... RFLMAO

Proteus
Tue Jan 03, 2006, 11:52 AM
link Proteus provides is of a red/orange head i.e Geophagus Rio Tapajos "Orange Head", which is not

a Geophagus brachybranchus

back on topic, when you look at certain websites, fishbase included, it lists the brachybranchus as an Orange Head???

very strange, maybe it is from a different locality?

as for the Black throat, it is clearly visible that altifrons dont have this.

Merrilyn
Tue Jan 03, 2006, 12:26 PM
Well I hope the thread stays there. I would really love to learn more about the altifrons. There still seems to be a lot of confusion about the different species. Hope someone can come up with some answers :P

Proteus
Sun Jan 29, 2006, 08:48 AM
*bump*

gotta love the eartheaters

:wink: