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DiscusMad
Thu Dec 28, 2006, 12:47 PM
Become tired of seeing these guys lay there eggs then get them or get them to wrigglers/free swimmers and then eat them. so this batch I let them lay the eggs on the plant and took mum and dad out. That was 3 days before xmass wigglers on 23rd and free swimmers on the night of boxing day :D Fry are doing realy well and already I notice a marked growth in them.

Fingers crossed :D

scott bowler
Thu Dec 28, 2006, 12:58 PM
well done hopem the go well .what colours are the mum and dad good luck with it all

DiscusMad
Thu Dec 28, 2006, 02:26 PM
from what i understand mum is zebra and dad is a black lace x gold

scott bowler
Thu Dec 28, 2006, 11:39 PM
cool sound s nice any pics

jim from sydney
Fri Dec 29, 2006, 05:54 AM
Great news, i hope you will succeed with the fry....feed them fresh brine shrimp 3 times per day at the start and they will grow well......cheers,

DiscusMad
Fri Dec 29, 2006, 11:32 AM
Great news, i hope you will succeed with the fry....feed them fresh brine shrimp 3 times per day at the start and they will grow well......cheers,

thanks for the advice but never had much luck useing fresh brine shrimp but had better luck doing the old boild egg yoke trick they still grew up nice and strong 8-) and then switching to powered colour bits after 2-3 week

jim from sydney
Sat Dec 30, 2006, 01:07 AM
i you had success before, stay with that method........cheers and g luck

DiscusMad
Sat Dec 30, 2006, 01:19 AM
thanks Jim

jim from sydney
Sun Dec 31, 2006, 12:25 AM
let me know how you go, my golden pair are breeding all the time, regularly, lots of wrigglers this morning ready to swim tomorrow or the day after.

good luck.

DiscusMad
Tue Jan 02, 2007, 02:25 PM
let me know how you go, my golden pair are breeding all the time, regularly, lots of wrigglers this morning ready to swim tomorrow or the day after.

good luck.

well yesterday the angels chose when nothing about try the wall :roll: more eggs and had moved them to another tank I realy have to get something for them to breed on soon instead of the amazon sword or the side of the tank. I wish the dad wouldn't eat the eggs cause i think mum would look after them alright

I'm very much into "if somebody else wants to do the hard work let them!"
but sometimes its just me lol :roll:

jim from sydney
Wed Jan 03, 2007, 05:35 AM
keep on trying......maybe introduce another object in the tank for them to explore, and remove the plant they are used to, it may help.

show you some of mine.....8 weeks old today......i have 3 lots more after these ones

cheers Jim

DiscusMad
Wed Jan 03, 2007, 11:38 AM
thanks for shareing

DiscusMad
Thu Jan 04, 2007, 02:27 PM
I'm keen to see what comes from my pair 8-)

DiscusMad
Mon Jan 08, 2007, 08:37 PM
getting back to me :roll: they have layed more eggs yesterday!

I think one more lot is all I can handle and give her a big rest

Merrilyn
Wed Jan 10, 2007, 11:11 AM
Oooooops. :oops: Sorry DM, we did hijack your thread, didn't we.

I'll split the thread and move some of the posts to a thread of their own.

:P

scott bowler
Wed Jan 10, 2007, 11:20 AM
im sorry too dm didnt mean to get of the track ..

DiscusMad
Wed Jan 10, 2007, 01:47 PM
forgiven lol

scott bowler
Thu Jan 11, 2007, 07:38 AM
dm after all that do you have any fry ? and how are things going with it all

DiscusMad
Thu Jan 11, 2007, 12:02 PM
have heaps of fry left some are died the first lot I have 13 left LOL I'm still learning but having better save rate with the second batch comming up to the 3rd week with the first lot and the second week for the second lot. the 3rd lot of eggs were eaten I divided the tank up so I had the eggs on one side but the buggers worked hard and went through and ate every one of them.

mistakes r crucial
Sat Jan 27, 2007, 07:09 AM
I no longer breed Angels but when I did... firstly, get the eggs away from the parents, they'll eat more than they raise. Secondly, feed them dead food and you'll get between 1 and 50 survive, feed them live food (brine shrimp) and you'll get 600 a batch. Problem is, now get rid of 'em!
MAC

DiscusMad
Sat Jan 27, 2007, 12:41 PM
Problem is, now get rid of 'em!
MAC

you could say that with any fish you breed at home I had a huge mass of pearl groumi and found after 3 months of trying to sell them to the shops they were not keen then in 2 days I had call after call for them! go figure :roll:

fishhead
Mon Jan 29, 2007, 04:42 AM
Hi everyone,

Unfortunatly it is difficult to sell small angels, mostly because wholesalers fear angel fish disease which often afflicts young angels kept in less than ideal conditions. The current wholesale price is about 50 cents for a three centimeter angel of any type (except Altums). Most angels only become egg eaters if water conditions are less than optimal. Check your PH, my best results were with a PH of 6, conductivity 28 microseimens, temperature 28 degrees C. Feed fry only live brine shrimp. Watch water conditions as fry are very sensitive to any form of polution. Keeping the PH low helps control amonia spikes.

Good luck

fishhead
Mon Jan 29, 2007, 04:47 AM
sorry i didn't make that too clear i mean wholesalers pay 50c for a three centimeter angel.

DiscusMad
Mon Jan 29, 2007, 09:15 PM
I'm not bothered about that its all about the fun and it give me alittle back for there keep I know i'm not going to make heaps of money from it but as i have said its fun

jim from sydney
Tue Jan 30, 2007, 12:13 AM
feed them dead food and you'll get between 1 and 50 survive, feed them live food (brine shrimp) and you'll get 600 a batch. Problem is, now get rid of 'em!
MAC

i agree, i tried various ways

most critical time is the first 3/4 weeks, thereafter it seems some dried food is ok if alternated with bs. angels need a lot of looking after during the first weeks, but heh, rewarding in the end.

i found it is no good starting them on some dried food at 10/14 days, much too early 3 weeks is the minimum for higher success rates.

cheers

DiscusMad
Tue Feb 20, 2007, 04:22 AM
my babies :D

Merrilyn
Tue Feb 20, 2007, 04:47 AM
Awwww they've got their wings. How cute is that.

They're looking good DM.

DiscusMad
Tue Feb 20, 2007, 12:28 PM
they were hatched on Boxing day

thanks INeedARealName

LOL Merrilyn

I've some more pics and only have one deformed that I don't have the heart to cull it so it will forever live in my desplay tank

DiscusMad
Tue Feb 20, 2007, 12:47 PM
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jim from sydney
Tue Feb 20, 2007, 09:45 PM
nice pics....how many babs did you get from 1 spawn???

cheers

XPLOSV
Wed Feb 21, 2007, 03:50 AM
Good job DiscusMad, all looking good compare to mine, have fungus growing all over the eggs on every spawn.

DiscusMad
Wed Feb 21, 2007, 07:22 AM
jim from sydney
that lot I only ended up with 8 of that one is deformed have new batch of wigglers at the moment so I have made a few changes to what i am doing with this new lot to see if I have better numbers this time.

XPLOSV
I have found with mine that more air going over the eggs helps with fighting the fungus as well as 10% water changes. I like to not use any chemicals in the water only as a last action.

so fingers crossed I am hoping when these little buggers get to size I will have a few pairs.